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Gay in Mexico

topic posted Tue, January 18, 2005 - 10:38 AM by  Rob
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I will be traveling through Mexico this spring and summer, camping, back-packing, and adventuring. I'm gay, and I was wondering if anyone could give me an insider's perspective on how that could impact me while I'm there.
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  • Re: Gay in Mexico

    Tue, January 18, 2005 - 12:48 PM
    Go to Puerto Vallarta (from what I heard)- Evidently a Mexican version of the Castro district.
    • Re: Gay in Mexico

      Thu, January 27, 2005 - 3:17 PM
      Oaxaca has a gay club, the 502, but I wasn't into it personally.
      I'm sure the nude area in Puerto Escondido or Zipolite has some faggotry, but I did not go to those places...

      Wish I could help more
      • Re: Gay in Mexico

        Thu, January 27, 2005 - 11:02 PM
        Thanks all. I'm not really looking for the Mexican equivelant of American gay-culture. :) In truth, I'm hoping to get away from all that. What I'm mostly curious about is how gay people are regarded in Mexico. I wonder if I should expect to encounter strong discriminations or are people more inclined to not care about it that much. I realize I'm asking for a generalization, but I'm just wondering if anyone there has made any observations along these lines. :)
        • Re: Gay in Mexico

          Thu, January 27, 2005 - 11:11 PM
          Overall they don't really care I'd say. Mexicans seem more likely to talk shit about it but don't really care, plus everybody has a brother, cousin, etc who is gay. Much more a live and let live attitude, IMO.
          • Re: Gay in Mexico

            Thu, January 27, 2005 - 11:40 PM
            Ah, that's good to hear. :) I grew up in a small mining town in Arizona that was about 90% Mexican, my mother and half my family are all Mexican, and that's kind of how it is with my family too. The men in my family and home town growing up would often talk and tease eachother with words like "joto" and "maracon" but, when they actually encounter someone who is gay, they back off and really don't care. Sometimes, when drinking, they can be oddly curious and actually take pride in telling you and others how tolerant they are. But you have to be careful because if they start to like you too much, they get confused and worry people will think their gay, so they have to contrast themselves against you. But for the most part, it was no big deal.

            Thanks for the info. :)
        • Re: Gay in Mexico

          Thu, January 27, 2005 - 11:17 PM
          I don't think you will encounter any trouble unless you go looking for it. My brother is gay and cuosin is lesbian, neither of whom experienced any problemos while in country with their partners.
          My brother seems to think there is less tension for gay men than there is women, but he is unsure why.

          There is a large gay population in PV; if you want to meet up with people and make some lifelong friendships, I would suggest a little dinner theater that I can't rememeber the name of, but it is south of the River walk a block or two and towards the west side of the two bridges . . . like that helps! Ah well . . .

          Have a great time!
          • Re: Gay in Mexico

            Sat, January 29, 2005 - 1:50 AM
            So there we were in Mexico, Oaxaca to be exact. My, then, boyfriend and I in the Zocalo late at night. The Aztec dancers had long since gone and we were walking off a large dinner from one of the cafes near by. To give you some perspective, he was about 46 and I 21. He talked to me alot about the Mexican machismo culture. This culture I had been raised in, so it was not new to me. But his outsider point of view was interesting and amusing so I went along with it, thinking it benign. We strolled and sat at a park bench when we spotted a few men standing searching like fishermen. We knew immediately exactly what they were fishing for. They were about his age, give or take a few years. This was a discussion point for a few minutes, untill this trio of boys came trompsing through the park. They were no more then eighteen and flamboyant as the nelliest queen in the Castro. Their high piched squeels of laughter preceeded them like trumpeters. This also inspired a few more minutes of conversation, but not the contrast between them and the older men. He had spoke to me so much of the intollerance of homosexuality in the Mexican culture. But he couldn't reconcile the existance of this band of very fey men and the gruf hookers. I immediately saw an age division in which he was one who could not see the change happening before his very eyes. Perhaps he had lost too many lovers, or healed too many bruises to see the reality of the changing times. Not to say that I haven't suffered my own share of bruises. I may have let them callus me to many things. But the reality that is before me I won't let them blind me from. I still don't know what to make of homosexuality in the still very mochismo Hispanic society, in Mexico and the states. But I do know that we have people in every nation who are not afraid to be who they are no matter what society dictates. I draw my strength of individuality partly from those young men who laughed and kissed, and hung on each other like they couldn't give a damn.
            • Re: Gay in Mexico

              Sat, January 29, 2005 - 7:50 AM
              Thank you! What an inspiring story! I will take it to heart and carry it there as I travel.

              As it has been said "la vida es largo" ;)

              I really appreciate you.

              Rob

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