mx.youtube.com/watch
mx.youtube.com/watch
Every person CAN make a difference by making sure that everyone else knows that FECAL and his friends are trying to sell off PEMEX and create a NAU.
The big question is why would anyone want to create any connection with the biggest debtor nation on the planet, run by war criminals and torturers, while the dollar falls, people are made homeless in thousands, stockmarkets crash, scandal upon scandal emerges, in a country reliant on massive importation of hard drugs and the theft of oil from around the world? Why would any Mexican President want to join with the United States of Apartheid when it such a huge lie? Surely something is seriously wrong with FECAL and his friends. Why are they being allowed to get away with it?
There is so much to talk about, so perhaps visitors to Mexico can actually talk about the issues and discuss the solutions rather than just be like a bunch of 'gringos' taking whatever they want as is so often the case!
mx.youtube.com/watch
Every person CAN make a difference by making sure that everyone else knows that FECAL and his friends are trying to sell off PEMEX and create a NAU.
The big question is why would anyone want to create any connection with the biggest debtor nation on the planet, run by war criminals and torturers, while the dollar falls, people are made homeless in thousands, stockmarkets crash, scandal upon scandal emerges, in a country reliant on massive importation of hard drugs and the theft of oil from around the world? Why would any Mexican President want to join with the United States of Apartheid when it such a huge lie? Surely something is seriously wrong with FECAL and his friends. Why are they being allowed to get away with it?
There is so much to talk about, so perhaps visitors to Mexico can actually talk about the issues and discuss the solutions rather than just be like a bunch of 'gringos' taking whatever they want as is so often the case!
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Re: Tesoro Mexicano
Wed, March 26, 2008 - 11:42 AMObrador: "...there exists no reason for PEMEX to seek, or need, foreign investment..." (my paraphrase)
The rebutall:
findarticles.com/p/article..._n18771159
key: "In 2006, the changes in the fiscal regime and Mexico's Income Tax Law have resulted in greater financial flexibility for PEMEX. Nevertheless, there still remains a lack of an explicit sovereign guarantee on PEMEX's debt."
Without guarantee on their debts, where else do they look for money? That last sentence is significant; the government has, so far, refused to provide guarantees to PEMEX's creditors... -
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Re: Tesoro Mexicano
Wed, March 26, 2008 - 11:46 AMI can't support some neo-liberal, tax-free, foreign involvement in Mex's energy sector, but unless Chavez pony's up the debt guarantees...
Also, PEMEX is generally recognized among petroleum producers as being a bloated and inefficient mess.
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Re: Tesoro Mexicano
Wed, March 26, 2008 - 11:53 AMAlso, the circulating myth that PEMEX plans to declare bankruptcy, which would result in the firesale of its assets is in direct conflict with Mexican National Law:
"Ley de Concursos Mercantiles does not allow any state owned company, as PEMEX, to be declared in bankruptcy."
www.pemex.com/index.cfm
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Re: Tesoro Mexicano
Wed, March 26, 2008 - 12:26 PM<<The big question is why would anyone want to create any connection with the biggest debtor nation on the planet, run by war criminals and torturers, while the dollar falls, people are made homeless in thousands, stockmarkets crash, scandal upon scandal emerges, in a country reliant on massive importation of hard drugs and the theft of oil from around the world? Why would any Mexican President want to join with the United States of Apartheid when it such a huge lie?>>
Um, Total Energy of France, and that oil company from Italy, whatever its name is, are the ones looking most closely at providing exploration expenditures in return for stock... -
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Re: Tesoro Mexicano
Mon, March 31, 2008 - 8:38 AMFidel Castro and Hugo Chavez have deals with the US and eurofascist corporations with regards to oil.
One thing is what they proclaim in their hitlerite speeches to their people, and another what they really are....
That old sayin' has never been so true:
"He's a son of a bitch, but he's OUR son of a bitch" -
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A deeper understanding is necessary for a real assesment...
Mon, March 31, 2008 - 6:05 PMUS companies are forbidden by law to form partnerships or joint-ventures with Cuban oil entities...existing arrangements with Ven predate Hugo.
Right now, the consortium to explore for oil in Cuban territory includes Spanish, Indian and Norwegian companies.
money.cnn.com/magazines/f...39/index.htm
That quote, apocryphally attributed to Roosevelt in reference to Anastasio Somoza, has no clear etymological provenence...I'm affraid snappy lines and fully extended fingers of blame and shame do not further the discussion at hand. -
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Re: A deeper understanding is necessary for a real assesment...
Mon, March 31, 2008 - 6:13 PMIMO, what PEMEX needs *IS* a good shake-up...
Corporation-wide unionization of their workforce. No more "levanta dedos" diputados' son-in-laws finding themselves in management positions. Massive modernization and repair to existing infrastructure (maybe even, *gasp*, foreign investment). Transparent resource calculations and international-standard due dilligence of assets.
I don't know if you've noticed, but they sell gas station franchises to idiots! How many times have you seen 4 PEMEX stations on a single city block? Another symptom of an ossified and sedentary company...
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Re: A deeper understanding is necessary for a real assesment...
Mon, March 31, 2008 - 10:39 PMYes they are indeed forbidden by law to do so, yet a couple of years ago, high ranking cuban officials were literally caught infraganti in bed with representatives from "evil empire" oil sucking companies, during the famous "Sheratongate" incident.
www.nytimes.com/2006/02/07...mexico.html
"Mexico and Cuba criticized the United States on Monday for demanding that the Sheraton Maria Isabel Hotel here order a group of Cuban officials, who were meeting last week with representatives of American oil companies, to check out of the hotel and leave the premises."
"Cuba is trying to entice American oil companies into deals to drill off the island's shore, just as it has with Chinese, Spanish and Brazilian oil-exploration enterprises. The meeting of largely Texan oil executives and elite bureaucrats from Havana ended Saturday. Among the companies represented were Exxon Mobil and the Valero Energy Corporation."
Most -braindead- media outlets only focused on the fact that the cuban officials were asked to leave the hotel premises, but pretty much no one demanded an explanation as to why on earth would cuban officials be "secretly" in bed with the same companies that are blamed by many as responsible for what is going on in that part of the world the English Empire baptized as Iraq when they raped the Ottoman Empire and took control of a large portion of the middle east at the end of WWI.
Had the "Sheratongate" not occured, no one would have known of that secret meeting...
What were the results of those dealings? Just take a look at what's happening now in Cuba!
So if even Cuba is welcoming foreign companies to drill for oil, it's would seem at fist hand hard to understand why there is opposition to this same scenario in Mexico.
Nationalist fundamentalism, "perredismo o muerte" as they call it....by now, pretty much everyone is glad AMLO lost.
As that political party tries to find a way to extricate itself from the cesspool that it's elections became, the man on the street has now become aware that PEMEX needs major surgery.
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Re: A deeper understanding is necessary for a real assesment...
Fri, April 4, 2008 - 1:22 PMOrale, iVan.
More important for Mexico is the continued growth and vitality of PEMEX. As Mexico's largest single taxpaying entity - well, you get the drift...
A national treasure like what they are blessed with shouldn't be squandered. This I can say Psi got right; although when the people ostensibly in charge of its direction are a bunch of chummy, visionless leeches...
...then you can get all huffy and indignant and shout "FIRE" in the crowded theaters...
I'd like to speak to Psi here about US-based oil companies. They have a somber and unflagging duty to abide the wishes of just one entity. And no, pal, its not the Bush family...it's called "shareholders". Cut the paranoid horseshit... -
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Re: A deeper understanding is necessary!
Thu, May 8, 2008 - 2:59 AM
And you will probably be one of the first to complain when the NAU takes away your rights and those of millions of other people!
Then there's the PPP and the super-highway plans for the western side of central America. I know people in El Salvador who are raising awareness of the issues for the various economies affected.
As for oil corporations being solely answerable to 'shareholders' and somehow not connected to the elite families, mega-corporations, war-mongers, greedy politicians, and all their grotty agendas, exploitation and environmental destruction? Which planet have you just come from?
In Mexico there is 'El Yunque' and a very corrupt PAN and PRI who will sell their grandmothers when it seems profitable enough. Mexico IS being run by drug-runners, right wing agendas, Masonic and other secretive groups, and the election was a carefully orchestrated theft of democracy from the people (unless of course you wear blinkers!). All the daft people who say something like: "Well anyway AMLO is bad too and so it's just as well he didn't get in!" - you actually WANT meaningless election results and conspiracy to defraud the majority of the populace of their choice? D'uh?
Conspiracy is a modern and historical FACT, not a 'theory' at all!
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Re: A deeper understanding is necessary!
Thu, May 8, 2008 - 6:57 AM"And you will probably be one of the first to complain when the NAU takes away your rights and those of millions of other people! "
Actually here in the states we sold our freedom for a false sense of security years ago.
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Re: A deeper understanding is necessary!
Thu, May 8, 2008 - 11:12 AMSome light reading for Psi re NAU:
www.eagleforum.org/column/2...4-16.html
Ye GODS! Plans for a cen am super-highway! Well, I take your nebulous 'friends' in El Salvador with no apparent beef except fear-mongering, and raise you 3 banana growing cooperatives in Chinandega department, Nicaragua who will see vast distribution gains from this evil, vindictive highway plan!
I'd love to wade into the whole "Mexico IS being run by...Masonic and other secretive groups" fray, but frankly, I'm more interested in the topic at hand. I think there are some points unanswered from my previous posts about the steps necessary to restore PEMEX to vitality, in that they may continue to fund the entire Mexican economy. Do you actually have any thoughts whatsoever on the process?
Can you ever add ANYTHING besides smug rhetoric? Seriously... -
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Re: A deeper understanding is necessary!
Thu, May 8, 2008 - 2:18 PM"The big question is why would anyone want to create any connection with the biggest debtor nation on the planet, run by war criminals and torturers, while the dollar falls, people are made homeless in thousands, stockmarkets crash, scandal upon scandal emerges, in a country reliant on massive importation of hard drugs and the theft of oil from around the world?"
good question, maybe these guys can answer it for you www.uktradeinvestusa.com/
I guess some folks havn't figured out that the people with money are in charge.....love it or hate it, it is the way of the world, ranting and finger pointing and name calling is the usual frustration of the weak. I don't know if anyone has noticed or not but when the powerless take over, as has been the case in so many revolutions; the oppressed become as bad as what they replaced. That Mugabe fella comes to mind, I remember when he was the darling of the left. I havn't looked at the paper today, how that working out? How about Chavez while we are on the subject of losing civil rights. Not that I don't like Hugo I think he is fun to watch but I think he'll have trouble when the oil is gone or shut down.
Now as to our importation of Drugs, I think if you check this www.unodc.org/pdf/WDR_200...sumption.pdf
you will see our consumption is on a par with the UK....GO BRITS!!!!! And The Canadians beat us hands down.......Now check out Ghana....looks like a quarter of the country is stoned on pot!
You see there are just more of us.....and never forget volume equals lower prices. As for stealing oil well shit you caught us...but we need it we like big cars and per capita we are # 15 at 70.7 barrels of oil per 1000 people.....and yes once again beat out by the Canadians by a barrel a day....Man they seem like such nice people too!
Now my final point. If there is a vast conspiracy, well they suck at it. I would think someone set on world domination would be better organized. How embarrasing that Dr. Evil is actually in charge.
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